i'm saying let people keep more of their own money in taxes and let's not fund a program that, frankly, isn't working, and rife with waste, fraud and abuse. >> and vouchers, right? >> what's wrong with re-examining it and taking a closer look and being more fiscally responsible, while at the same time providing good quality care for americans? >> the thing is, any time a republican offers some kind of option, it is demonizing as being greedy or pushing grandma off the cliff. it would be great if both sides analyzeded what options were out there together equally. >> they did that. they tried that with simpson/bowles and look what happens. >> i don't know what that is. >> you don't remember? >> no. directly ahead, for some reason, today is cyber monday. could drone delivery be in our new future? and later, barbara walters, a saint, releases her list of the ten most fascinating people of the year. the burning question? why do we care? that debate and more coming up on "the five." ♪ it's a great day to be alive >>> all right, cyber monday is sheer. while online shopping is already very c